Discussion:
Replicant on Sunxi devices
Bob Summerwill
2014-10-01 20:27:20 UTC
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Hey Paul,

I see from your roadmap posting (
http://blog.replicant.us/2014/09/replicant-homepage-and-roadmap-for-the-future/)
that you are switching your focus onto Allwinner Sunxi devices.

I would just like to introduce you to Leon Anavi and Philippe Coval (AKA
RzR), who you may or may not already know. They have been working on
tizen-sunxi and I'm sure that you have many, many common aims.

https://github.com/leon-anavi/tizen-sunxi

There are various articles and videos here -
http://www.tizenexperts.com/?s=sunxi

Notably ...
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/07/tizen-running-on-an-android-tablet-allwinner/

Best wishes!


Cheers,
Bob
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bob at summerwill.net
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Paul Kocialkowski
2014-10-03 22:48:33 UTC
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Post by Bob Summerwill
I see from your roadmap posting
(http://blog.replicant.us/2014/09/replicant-homepage-and-roadmap-for-the-future/) that you are switching your focus onto Allwinner Sunxi devices.
I am indeed. I have already pushed support for multiple tablets at
linux-sunxi.
Post by Bob Summerwill
I would just like to introduce you to Leon Anavi and Philippe Coval
(AKA RzR), who you may or may not already know. They have been
working on tizen-sunxi and I'm sure that you have many, many common
aims.
That's nice, I am aware of the Tizen port on sunxi and have been
following Tizen progress in general from a distance for some time now.
I'm not sure how much of an alternative Tizen represents in comparison
to Android today, but many believe that it will become tomorrow's
privileged choice for a free software mobile operating system. My
opinion is that Android is still the easiest way to achieve that goal,
and things may change in the near future.

I'm not sure I'll have so much time to play around with Tizen these
days, but it's good to know there is such an effort.

By the way, I will be at XDC next week in Bordeaux, France and noticed a
few talks about Tizen. If any of you guys plan on being there as well,
it could be nice to meet and discuss all this a bit!
--
Paul Kocialkowski, Replicant developer

Replicant is a fully free Android distribution

Website: http://www.replicant.us/
Redmine: http://redmine.replicant.us/
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Paul Kocialkowski
2014-10-09 08:56:54 UTC
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Post by Bob Summerwill
Post by Bob Summerwill
I see from your roadmap posting
(http://blog.replicant.us/2014/09/replicant-homepage-and-roadmap-for-the-future/)
that you are switching your focus onto Allwinner Sunxi devices.
I am indeed. I have already pushed support for multiple tablets at
linux-sunxi.
Post by Bob Summerwill
I would just like to introduce you to Leon Anavi and Philippe Coval
(AKA RzR), who you may or may not already know.
Yes I know you guys,
we event talked a couple of time on IRC about GPS unit of RD210 ...
unsure there are some progress about opensource GPS support on Replicant
yet ... that is something tough to support
I suppose we are talking about either the BCM4751 or GSD4t chips, which
are both non-trivial to support. There have been a few attempts at
figuring those out, but nothing really conclusive.
Personally, I have given up on those, at least until I am more aware of
the inner workings of GPS.
Post by Bob Summerwill
Post by Bob Summerwill
Post by Bob Summerwill
They have been
working on tizen-sunxi and I'm sure that you have many, many common
aims.
but we use mainline kernel
That's nice, I was told recently that sunxi support in mainline is about
good enough for a headless setup. Now I guess that display support (even
with no graphics acceleration) is one of the most important things for a
mobile operating system ;)
Post by Bob Summerwill
I'm not sure how much of an alternative Tizen represents in comparison
to Android today, but many believe that it will become tomorrow's
privileged choice for a free software mobile operating system.
Well the development model is a difference to spot too
Well, Android's development model has been heavily criticized, though
it's fine with me as long as it helps making a fully free system.
Perhaps a more community-oriented development model would suit us
better, but at this point, I really don't have such specific
requirements. As long as it provides at shot at making a free mobile
system, it's worth a shot.
Post by Bob Summerwill
My
opinion is that Android is still the easiest way to achieve that goal,
and things may change in the near future.
You mean It will became less easier ?
Well, there are some growing concerns regarding Android, especially the
fact that Google is dropping development of the core system apps in
favor of their proprietary alternatives (see
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/)

In addition to that, Android's heavy and increasing dependency on
graphics acceleration makes it harder for us to get it running with a
software-only stack every time (the one that was originally designed for
the Android emulator).

Perhaps at some point, Tizen will provide more features and make it
easier to be made fully free. The current limiting factor of Tizen would
be the amount of supported devices and the amount of developers. Both of
these are crazy figures when it comes to Android, which is a clear
benefit.
--
Paul Kocialkowski, Replicant developer

Replicant is a fully free Android distribution

Website: http://www.replicant.us/
Redmine: http://redmine.replicant.us/
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Leon Anavi
2014-10-01 22:33:03 UTC
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Hi Paul, Bob,

Paul, nice to meet you. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have
any questions related to Tizen-sunxi. Btw Phil and I am using the
open-source hardware boards A20-OLinuXino-MICRO as a reference device
for the porting of Tizen. I have several other boards and tablets with
Allwinner SoCs.

Bob, thank you for contacting me with Paul :)

Best regards,
Leon
Post by Bob Summerwill
Hey Paul,
I see from your roadmap posting
log.replicant.us/2014/09/replicant-homepage-and-roadmap-for-the-future/
[1]) that you are switching your focus onto Allwinner Sunxi devices.
I would just like to introduce you to Leon Anavi and Philippe Coval
(AKA RzR), who you may or may not already know.   They have been
working on tizen-sunxi and I'm sure that you have many, many common
aims.
https://github.com/leon-anavi/tizen-sunxi [2]
There are various articles and videos here -
http://www.tizenexperts.com/?s=sunxi [3]
Notably
tizenexperts.com/2014/07/tizen-running-on-an-android-tablet-allwinner/
[4]
Best wishes!
Cheers,
Bob
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[1]
og.replicant.us/2014/09/replicant-homepage-and-roadmap-for-the-future/
[2] https://github.com/leon-anavi/tizen-sunxi
[3] http://www.tizenexperts.com/?s=sunxi
[4]
tizenexperts.com/2014/07/tizen-running-on-an-android-tablet-allwinner/
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http://anavi.org/
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